Hello i have some little question for you: first of all i see on some deitys an missing alignment for cleric for example abadar islawfull neutral but on cleric alignment i see only lawfull good lawfull neutral and lawfuull evil, if i'm not in error an cleric should be also neutral neutral?
now second question, i'm actually traslating wiki on italian there is an way to be advised when there are change? (an feed or something similar)
Selven 11:09, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
on the front page, go down to the 'helping out' box. at the very bottom of that is a 'edited articles' link and a 'created articles' link. unfortunatly, there is current;y no way to RSS feed these, but it does show you more than one day worth of edits...
yeah i just see and using it to update information the problem is tho know when a ppage is updated ;) hmw take attention to cleric alignment for deity
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There is an rss feed of the
Recent Changes page. It could be a little messy separating new pages vs. edits, but it might be a good place to start.
Aeakett 12:14, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
There are two primary reasons for the perceived discrepancy in cleric alignment. The first is that the Pathfinder Chronicles setting was establishing utilizing the D&D 3.5 rule set; in 3.5, a cleric could only be neutral neutral, more commonly called true neutral, if the deity he or she served was true neutral as well. Now that you've brought this up, I don't see any mention of this stipulation in the Pathfinder Core Rules, but because the setting was defined under the old system it still reflects such.
The second is that the Pathfinder Chronicles Campaign Setting, the focus of this project, is separate from the Pathfinder Core Rules themselves; the rules the hold sway in one won't always match with those in the other. Using your above example, Abadar is presented in the printed source as only supporting clerics of lawful alignment, even beyond the class restriction that was present in the 3.5 rules. He does not have true neutral clerics, not because he can't have them, but because he doesn't want them.
I don't believe there is any mention in the source material regarding Abadar's clerics being only Lawful. I think all of the cleric alignment subtemplates in the in deity infoboxes were surmised from rules restrictions. We should revisit this since the rules have changed, or at least bring it up to one of the Paizo editors.
A second issue is the translation of the wiki. Wikimedia allows for multiple languages to exist on the same project, and adding an Italian language version to this wiki might be worth looking into. I don't know where your translations are appearing Selven, but would you consider doing the translations here on Golariopedia itself if we were able to implement an Italian language version?
you can see my site at
http://www.golarion.altervista.org if you want make the wiki multilanguage feel free to take all contents from here liberally.
About the fact of 3.5 rule i not remember the fact only neutral divinity can have neutral cleric (i just remeember the rrule of one step from god alignment), i suggest to post the question to paizo to clearify this ;)
Selven 16:52, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
You're correct, Yoda, that the source doesn't specifically state Abadar's clergy is only of lawful alignment. But it does state that "He expects his followers to abide by the laws ..." and he is definitely all about law and the order of things; these points are what I meant to illuminate, not that the source put it into game terms and spelled it out for us.
I do agree it's something we could ask of Paizo; though true neutral clerics was an often overlooked rule (I think it was mentioned only once, and only as a single sentence), t does change some things rather dramatically.
i tryed to make the question on paizo's forum, but seems that if my name is not yoda8myhead there is no way to obtain replies ;) i suggest to try you to make this question
selven 21:53, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
